[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Hi.

OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.

Images:

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-text-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-text-20180427.usb

http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-minimal-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-minimal-20180427.usb


SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum
Signed SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum.asc
The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 (
https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x3A021AFADBE31887 ).

Release notes: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/2018.04+Release+notes

[Alexander Pyhalov]

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum
Signed SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum.asc
The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 (
https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x3A021AFADBE31887 ).

And yes, I've managed to make an error here - we don't sign checksusm,
but sign images, signatures are available as ${link}.sig .

[Nikola M]

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.

Just for the info,
I updated the other day with
osnet-***@0.5.11-2018.0.0.17292 and
userland-***@0.5.11-2018.0.0.10635
and situation is unchanged from last year April snapshot (e.g. form
January 2017 onward) and the bug present on 201704 snapshot is still there.

Last osnet/userland I could use on are
osnet-***@0.5.11-2016.1.1.16076 and
userland-***@0.5.11-2016.1.1.8108 , from December 2016 ,
and does not have random process locking with high CPU use, making
system unusable on Core2Duo T5600 (Dell D620 laptop) for anything newer.

Since all previous onset/userland builds are deleted from servers upon
creating OI snapshot for disk space conserving and the speed of IPS/pkg
operations, I was unable to pinpoint exact moment after December 2016
when illumos/OI change created the issue with random process high CPU
use/locking.
It could be both about illumos regression and build environment changes
in starting of 2017.

[Stephan Althaus]

Hello Nikola!

I am using a DELL Latitude E6500 with "Intel(r) Core(tm)2 Duo CPU    
T9800  @ 2.93GHz"
and i seem not to have any basic problems (despite of some firefox-tabs
somewhen eating CPU).

The only difference to my cpu i see (looking at ark.intel..) is the
codename 'merom' and the lack of "Intel® Trusted Execution Technology"

Maybe there's something in the newer kernels where this feature is needed.
(just guessing..?()?)

Post by Nikola M

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.

Just for the info,
I updated the other day with
and situation is unchanged from last year April snapshot (e.g. form
January 2017 onward) and the bug present on 201704 snapshot is still there.
Last osnet/userland I could use on are
and does not have random process locking with high CPU use, making
system unusable on Core2Duo T5600 (Dell D620 laptop) for anything newer.
Since all previous onset/userland builds are deleted from servers upon
creating OI snapshot for disk space conserving and the speed of
IPS/pkg operations, I was unable to pinpoint exact moment after
December 2016 when illumos/OI change created the issue with random
process high CPU use/locking.
It could be both about illumos regression and build environment
changes in starting of 2017.
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[Tomasz Kłoczko]

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

I've been trying to boot usb image on http://www.up-board.org/upsquared/
After display messages about loading boot_archive{,.hash} and after
this "Booting..." few seconds after this everything resets and back to
BIOS reset.
I've been trying to enable kmdb and verbose but with those options
enabled nothing more is displayed and everything freezes (only cold
reset helps).

I'm using UP Squared Pentium Quad Core (N4200 @ 1.10GHz) 8GB memory/128GB eMMC

kloczek

[Till Wegmüller]

Hi Tomasz

Isn't Apollo Lake 32bit only? We got rid of 32bit support a few months ago.

Greetings
Till

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

I've been trying to boot usb image on http://www.up-board.org/upsquared/
After display messages about loading boot_archive{,.hash} and after
this "Booting..." few seconds after this everything resets and back to
BIOS reset.
I've been trying to enable kmdb and verbose but with those options
enabled nothing more is displayed and everything freezes (only cold
reset helps).
kloczek

[James]

Post by Till Wegmüller
Isn't Apollo Lake 32bit only?

Defiantly 64 bit and I've booted OI on a J3455 although it wouldn't run
graphics. I didn't waste time investigating.


James.

[Tomasz Kłoczko]

Post by James

Post by Till Wegmüller
Isn't Apollo Lake 32bit only?

Defiantly 64 bit and I've booted OI on a J3455 although it wouldn't run
graphics. I didn't waste time investigating.

Yes, it is 64bit.
At the moment I'm using it with Fedora rawhide and ItWorksJustFine(tm).
Ths HW is interesting because it has a lot of GPIO lines:

[***@tin proc]# gpiodetect
gpiochip0 [INT3452:00] (78 lines)
gpiochip1 [INT3452:01] (77 lines)
gpiochip2 [INT3452:02] (47 lines)
gpiochip3 [INT3452:03] (43 lines)

BTW: how it is with OI GPIOs support?

In the attachment, you can find full dmesg output on Linux kernel 4.17.0 rc1.

kloczek

[Till Wegmüller]

Hi Tomasz

What does the debug mode say?

Greetings
Till

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

I've been trying to boot usb image on http://www.up-board.org/upsquared/
After display messages about loading boot_archive{,.hash} and after
this "Booting..." few seconds after this everything resets and back to
BIOS reset.
I've been trying to enable kmdb and verbose but with those options
enabled nothing more is displayed and everything freezes (only cold
reset helps).
kloczek

[Jerry Kemp]

Hello kloczek,

I've been looking for some small x86/x64 systems like this to run Open Indiana on, for personal/hobby purposes.

Assuming you are able to overcome any issues here and are able to get OI to install and function correctly, just wondering if you
are purchasing the UP Board Squared systems directly, thru their web site? Or thru some other vendor?

Thanks,

Jerry

Post by Till Wegmüller
Hi Tomasz
What does the debug mode say?
Greetings
Till

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

I've been trying to boot usb image on http://www.up-board.org/upsquared/
After display messages about loading boot_archive{,.hash} and after
this "Booting..." few seconds after this everything resets and back to
BIOS reset.
I've been trying to enable kmdb and verbose but with those options
enabled nothing more is displayed and everything freezes (only cold
reset helps).
kloczek

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[Tomasz Kłoczko]

Post by Jerry Kemp
Hello kloczek,
I've been looking for some small x86/x64 systems like this to run Open
Indiana on, for personal/hobby purposes.
Assuming you are able to overcome any issues here and are able to get OI to
install and function correctly, just wondering if you are purchasing the UP
Board Squared systems directly, thru their web site? Or thru some other
vendor?

I don't think that hw vendor will be able to help with OI. Will try to
ask but I think that they may have to small customers base to provide
such support (will try to ask them).

Because boot freezes or restarts at very early stage I suppose that
problem may be with CPU support
So question to OI developers: how it is with this Intel Pentium CPU
N4200 support? and/or what more I can do to diagnose boot issue?

Another thing is that this HW has 128GB eMMc so I'm not sure is it
will be possible to use OI with this eMMc as root dev.
I have 1TB miniPCI Samsung Evo 960 SATA plugged in this HW (miniPCI
slot is configurable at BIOS level to support SATA or NVMe over this
interface) and another spindle connected over SATA connector so at
least those devices should be possible to use with OI.

kloczek

[Jerry Kemp]

Please see inline comment.

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko
I don't think that hw vendor will be able to help with OI. Will try to
ask but I think that they may have to small customers base to provide
such support (will try to ask them).

No, I completely agree here. If you get OI going on this piece of HW, it will be due to members of this list and you.

All I'm really asking, assuming you are able to get OI running on your HW, is, did you purchase it from their online store? Or
somewhere else?

Thanks,

Jerry

[Tomasz Kłoczko]

On 1 May 2018 at 23:13, Jerry Kemp <***@oryx.us> wrote:
[..]

Post by Jerry Kemp
No, I completely agree here. If you get OI going on this piece of HW, it
will be due to members of this list and you.
All I'm really asking, assuming you are able to get OI running on your HW,
is, did you purchase it from their online store? Or somewhere else?

Purchase from the online store.

HW is really very nice and consumes only a few wats.
It can be used without active cooler (with only default passive
cooling) even on very intensive CPU/IO workloads.
It has RTC and backup battery interfaces.
I'm using it at the moment as zabbix server to monitor all other HW at
home network and few sensors available over wifi (my custom esp 8266
based applications).

kloczek

[James]

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Jerry Kemp
I've been looking for some small x86/x64 systems like this to run Open
Indiana on, for personal/hobby purposes.

...

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko
Another thing is that this HW has 128GB eMMc so I'm not sure is it
will be possible to use OI with this eMMc as root dev.

I don't think eMMC (nor MMC) works under Solaris but perhaps someone
will be kind enough to give a definitive answer here. Also what
barriers are there to making it work? (Writing/porting drivers...)

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko
I have 1TB miniPCI Samsung Evo 960 SATA plugged in this HW (miniPCI
slot is configurable at BIOS level to support SATA or NVMe over this
interface) and another spindle connected over SATA connector so at
least those devices should be possible to use with OI.

That is promising.

I have a couple of Z83V "Mini PC"s. Intel Atom x5-Z8350 4-core 1.92GHz,
2GB DDR3, 32GB eMMC, Intel Graphics VGA Port, Gbit Ethernet, WiFi.

The Z83V only has EFI boot so OI does not work. Are there similar
machines with legacy boot? Perhaps the UP will work. What work is
required to make OI work with UEFI?

I have put Linux Mint on a Z83V in the hope of replacing at least one of
my SunRays for basic desktop usage. Please don't write in but - Linux
feels like going back to Solaria 9 with up-to-date added software, eg,
new Firefox works but the OS does not use ZFS. I'd much rather have OI
on it.

I ran Solaris 11.3 for test (no graphics) and used USB memory sticks as
eMMC is non-working. The eMMC storage is built in (clue in the name)
but by using USB a ZFS mirror with hot swap is possible. USB2 is fast
enough. The USB3 memory stick I tried used 1W, got very hot and failed.

The performance is perfectly adequate. Power range: 3W idle 5W busy
with no screen, +2W for active graphics.

The Z83V's CPU is the same model used in the basic UP-Board. I'd like
to try an UP. The UP has Pi style IO which I assume will not work until
someone write drivers for OI. How hard is it? Otherwise an ESP8266
doing the physical IO with WiFi to a real computer will be the answer.


Other small systems I own:
A1SAi-2750F Supermicro - runs OI, Power 14W/28W (without storage).
N3700 ASRock Mini-ITX - runs S11 with graphics, didn't try OI, power
11W/15W.
J3455, tried both ASRock and Gigabyte Mini-ITX MBs - no graphics with
S11 nor OI. 10W/16W.

Compare with SunRay3+ active power 14W (plus 125W for a 1U server in
another room).
I hardly class my C2750 systems as small but compared with say a
SunBlade 2000 they are small except in performance.



James.

[Tomasz Kłoczko]

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Post by Till Wegmüller
Hi Tomasz
What does the debug mode say?
Greetings
Till

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb

I've been trying to boot usb image on http://www.up-board.org/upsquared/
After display messages about loading boot_archive{,.hash} and after
this "Booting..." few seconds after this everything resets and back to
BIOS reset.
I've been trying to enable kmdb and verbose but with those options
enabled nothing more is displayed and everything freezes (only cold
reset helps).
kloczek

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[Tomasz Kłoczko]

Post by Till Wegmüller
Hi Tomasz
What does the debug mode say?

Nothing (as same as with kmdb or verbose enabled) .. it just freezes.

kloczek

[Tomasz Kłoczko]

Post by Tomasz Kłoczko

Post by Till Wegmüller
Hi Tomasz
What does the debug mode say?

Nothing (as same as with kmdb or verbose enabled) .. it just freezes.

Sorry that I'm asking again.
What is possible to do in such cases? How to debug such early boot crashes?
Can someone provide some advises about what is still possible to do?

kloczek

[Harry Putnam]

Post by Alexander Pyhalov
Hi.
OI Hipster 2018.04 snapshot is ready.
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-gui-20180427.usb
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-text-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-text-20180427.usb
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-minimal-20180427.iso
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20180427/OI-hipster-minimal-20180427.usb

Been out of touch for some months, would now like to update a couple
of Oracle vms as a trial run toward updating my main Hdw installation
of OI.

The vms are installed/running on OI (The eventual update target):
The Illumos Project SunOS 5.11 illumos-a356818ef9 February 2018

installed vm current version is:

The Illumos Project SunOS 5.11 illumos-8c33116662 January 2018

So about 7 months old.

I would like to know if I am likely to run into serious problems just
using the normal update process: `pkg -v update' or if better off to
do fresh install from latest image?

As mentioned the aim is to have a trial run at updating an older version
from Jan 2018 to current image with an eye toward updating an actual
hdw install to current following the trial run on vm

Have there been such significant changes since Jan/Feb as to render a
plain `pkg -v update' a non-starter or a likely disaster?