[OpenIndiana-discuss] Switch ARCH to 64-bit

Discussion:

Stephan Althaus

2018-10-26 15:50:28 UTC

Hello!

While i am experimenting with pkgsrc
i stumbled over the fact, that my machine is only 32bit,
whereas the ELF header of some brogs shows 64bt

i'm confused

while bmake in net/nmap

pkg_add: SunOS/x86_64 5.11 (pkg) vs. SunOS/i386 5.11 (this host)

BUT programs are 64bit

***@oi:/tank/pkgsrc/pkgsrc/net/nmap# elfdump -e `which mc`
ELF Header
ei_magic:   { 0x7f, E, L, F }
ei_class:   ELFCLASS64          ei_data:       ELFDATA2LSB
ei_osabi:   ELFOSABI_SOLARIS    ei_abiversion: EAV_SUNW_CURRENT
e_machine: EM_AMD64            e_version:     EV_CURRENT
e_type:     ET_EXEC
e_flags:                     0
e_entry:              0x440230 e_ehsize:     64 e_shstrndx: 33
e_shoff:              0x1436c0 e_shentsize: 64 e_shnum: 34
e_phoff:                  0x40 e_phentsize: 56 e_phnum:     7
***@oi:/tank/pkgsrc/pkgsrc/net/nmap#

Finally, i would like to switch to 64bit - if theres something to swittch..

Thanks for any hints,
Stephan

Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 15:55:47 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
While i am experimenting with pkgsrc
i stumbled over the fact, that my machine is only 32bit,
whereas the ELF header of some brogs shows 64bt
i'm confused
while bmake in net/nmap
pkg_add: SunOS/x86_64 5.11 (pkg) vs. SunOS/i386 5.11 (this host)
BUT programs are 64bit
ELF Header
ei_magic: { 0x7f, E, L, F }
ei_class: ELFCLASS64 ei_data: ELFDATA2LSB
ei_osabi: ELFOSABI_SOLARIS ei_abiversion: EAV_SUNW_CURRENT
e_machine: EM_AMD64 e_version: EV_CURRENT
e_type: ET_EXEC
e_flags: 0
e_entry: 0x440230 e_ehsize: 64 e_shstrndx: 33
e_shoff: 0x1436c0 e_shentsize: 64 e_shnum: 34
e_phoff: 0x40 e_phentsize: 56 e_phnum: 7
Finally, i would like to switch to 64bit - if theres something to swittch..

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Stephan Althaus

2018-10-26 16:29:05 UTC

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Hello!

***@oi:/home/steven$ isainfo -k
amd64

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Stephan Althaus

2018-10-26 16:35:12 UTC

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Hello!

And some additional info:

***@oi:~# psrinfo -pv
The physical processor has 4 cores and 8 virtual processors (0-7)
The core has 2 virtual processors (0 4)
The core has 2 virtual processors (1 5)
The core has 2 virtual processors (2 6)
The core has 2 virtual processors (3 7)
x86 (GenuineIntel 106E5 family 6 model 30 step 5 clock 1600 MHz)
Intel(r) Core(tm) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz

***@oi:~# uname -a
SunOS oi 5.11 illumos-dd891561fb i86pc i386 i86pc

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
While i am experimenting with pkgsrc
i stumbled over the fact, that my machine is only 32bit,
whereas the ELF header of some brogs shows 64bt
i'm confused
while bmake in net/nmap
pkg_add: SunOS/x86_64 5.11 (pkg) vs. SunOS/i386 5.11 (this host)
BUT programs are 64bit
ELF Header
    ei_magic:   { 0x7f, E, L, F }
    ei_class:   ELFCLASS64          ei_data:       ELFDATA2LSB
    ei_osabi:   ELFOSABI_SOLARIS    ei_abiversion: EAV_SUNW_CURRENT
    e_machine: EM_AMD64            e_version:     EV_CURRENT
    e_type:     ET_EXEC
    e_flags:                     0
    e_entry:              0x440230 e_ehsize:     64 e_shstrndx: 33
    e_shoff:              0x1436c0 e_shentsize: 64 e_shnum: 34
    e_phoff:                  0x40 e_phentsize: 56 e_phnum:     7
Finally, i would like to switch to 64bit - if theres something to swittch..

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 16:46:40 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:35 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
The physical processor has 4 cores and 8 virtual processors (0-7)
The core has 2 virtual processors (0 4)
The core has 2 virtual processors (1 5)
The core has 2 virtual processors (2 6)
The core has 2 virtual processors (3 7)
x86 (GenuineIntel 106E5 family 6 model 30 step 5 clock 1600 MHz)
SunOS oi 5.11 illumos-dd891561fb i86pc i386 i86pc

I think the confusion comes that you expected the same convention as for
e.g. Linux.

Solaris has had a different convention: i386pc is the general architecture
for x86 systems, then the actual supported ISAs are given by isainfo, and
the current kernel ISA given by isainfo -k.

The amd64 ISA is seen as an extension of i386 ISA within the i386pc
architecture, not as a separate architecture.

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 16:48:19 UTC

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Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:35 PM Stephan Althaus <

I think the confusion comes that you expected the same convention as for
e.g. Linux.
Solaris has had a different convention: i386pc is the general architecture
for x86 systems, then the actual supported ISAs are given by isainfo, and
the current kernel ISA given by isainfo -k.
The amd64 ISA is seen as an extension of i386 ISA within the i386pc
architecture, not as a separate architecture.

Also the ISA reported by uname -a is the lowest common denominator so that
portability/compatiblity is ensured.

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 16:53:59 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:46 PM Aurélien Larcher <

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:35 PM Stephan Althaus <

I think the confusion comes that you expected the same convention as for
e.g. Linux.
Solaris has had a different convention: i386pc is the general
architecture for x86 systems, then the actual supported ISAs are given by
isainfo, and the current kernel ISA given by isainfo -k.
The amd64 ISA is seen as an extension of i386 ISA within the i386pc
architecture, not as a separate architecture.

Also the ISA reported by uname -a is the lowest common denominator so that
portability/compatiblity is ensured.

If you remember how e.g. Debian introduced first a pure amd64 (x86_64) arch
then backpedalled to retrofit 32bit libraries in there by adding multiarch,
then you can see how this difference in convention can be useful: if you
see one architecture as multi-ISA from the beginning you have the multiarch
as a direct outcome, not need for retrofitting anything.

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 16:42:34 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:29 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Therefore you are running the 64-bit kernel, what is the exact issue?

i386pc can be either 32-bit or 64-bit, the actual bitness is deduced from
isainfo, and 32-bit binaries run on 64-bit kernel (that's why we deliver
both versions for libraries).

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

swittch..

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Stephan Althaus

2018-10-26 16:50:41 UTC

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Hello!

The issue ist that Joyents pkgsrc's bootstrap
does not recognize the system as 64bit
and therefore sticks to 32 bit (?).

Thanks that you clarifed my system is 64 bit.

I think i have to ask the people at ***@joyent then..
i hope this weekend i can try this on a fresh install on a vm with
2018.10 :-)

Thanks!

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:29 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Therefore you are running the 64-bit kernel, what is the exact issue?
i386pc can be either 32-bit or 64-bit, the actual bitness is deduced from
isainfo, and 32-bit binaries run on 64-bit kernel (that's why we deliver
both versions for libraries).

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 5:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

swittch..

Post by AurÃ©lien Larcher
What does isainfo -k report?

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Aurélien Larcher

2018-10-26 16:56:39 UTC

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On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:51 PM Stephan Althaus <

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
The issue ist that Joyents pkgsrc's bootstrap
does not recognize the system as 64bit
and therefore sticks to 32 bit (?).

As I recall isainfo -k is called to detect this.

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks that you clarifed my system is 64 bit.
i hope this weekend i can try this on a fresh install on a vm with
2018.10 :-)

Ask jperkin on #illumos if he is present.

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks!

You are welcome!

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Therefore you are running the 64-bit kernel, what is the exact issue?
i386pc can be either 32-bit or 64-bit, the actual bitness is deduced from
isainfo, and 32-bit binaries run on 64-bit kernel (that's why we deliver
both versions for libraries).

Post by Stephan Althaus

swittch..

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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Stephan Althaus

2018-10-26 17:07:19 UTC

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Hello!

Aah its so easy in the end..

./bootstrap --abi 64

.. and it works as expected now.

Thanks again!

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
The issue ist that Joyents pkgsrc's bootstrap
does not recognize the system as 64bit
and therefore sticks to 32 bit (?).

As I recall isainfo -k is called to detect this.

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks that you clarifed my system is 64 bit.
i hope this weekend i can try this on a fresh install on a vm with
2018.10 :-)

Ask jperkin on #illumos if he is present.

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks!

You are welcome!

Post by Stephan Althaus

Post by Stephan Althaus
Hello!
amd64

Therefore you are running the 64-bit kernel, what is the exact issue?
i386pc can be either 32-bit or 64-bit, the actual bitness is deduced from
isainfo, and 32-bit binaries run on 64-bit kernel (that's why we deliver
both versions for libraries).

Post by Stephan Althaus

swittch..

Post by Stephan Althaus
Thanks for any hints,
Stephan
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