[OpenIndiana-discuss] AMD graphics for OI?

[s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com]

Hello,

I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.

What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".

SM

[Till Wegmüller]

Hi

Well not that long, but definetly somewhere in that range I'm affraid.
Unless somebody sneakily started a porting effort.

Greetings
Till

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM
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[s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com]

https://xkcd.com/1508/

SM

Post by Till Wegmüller
Hi
Well not that long, but definetly somewhere in that range I'm affraid.
Unless somebody sneakily started a porting effort.
Greetings
Till

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM
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[Michal Nowak]

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM

If you have (very) old enough graphics card, you may use the Xorg driver
(it's either called 'ati', or 'radeon') and you should have all the
functionality. For anything newer the functionality moved from the Xorg
driver to kernel. So for OpenIndiana to have AMD GFX support, we would
have to port the Linux code the way it was done with the Intel driver.
Otherwise you have to stick with 'vesa' driver.

Michal

[s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com]

How does one fire up the VESA driver?

Would ATI/AMD contribute to provide some kind of drivers if asked?

There are two drivers for AMD (that I am aware of) MESA and AMD GPU PRO.
The latter is needed for video production on Linux. MESA is not enough,
and may be okay for gaming, but not video production. I have not managed
to get AMD GPU PRO to work even though there are instructions on the AMD
site. It is buggy and difficult. People on forums have tried to work
through solutions but the consensus is that AMD needs to get their act
together.

That said, perhaps there may be more luck (down the road) with AMD GPU
PRO than MESA?

SM

Post by Michal Nowak

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM

If you have (very) old enough graphics card, you may use the Xorg
driver (it's either called 'ati', or 'radeon') and you should have all
the functionality. For anything newer the functionality moved from the
Xorg driver to kernel. So for OpenIndiana to have AMD GFX support, we
would have to port the Linux code the way it was done with the Intel
driver. Otherwise you have to stick with 'vesa' driver.
Michal
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[ken mays via openindiana-discuss]

Till mentions:
Unless somebody sneakily started a porting effort."

See: https://www.illumos.org/issues/8069
I ported the AMDGPU driver a few years ago. The main AMDGPU-Pro components are closed source.

So, no support otherwise...

~K



On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 11:42:07 AM PDT, <***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com> wrote:

How does one fire up the VESA driver?

Would ATI/AMD contribute to provide some kind of drivers if asked?

There are two drivers for AMD (that I am aware of) MESA and AMD GPU PRO.
The latter is needed for video production on Linux. MESA is not enough,
and may be okay for gaming, but not video production. I have not managed
to get AMD GPU PRO to work even though there are instructions on the AMD
site. It is buggy and difficult. People on forums have tried to work
through solutions but the consensus is that AMD needs to get their act
together.

That said, perhaps there may be more luck (down the road) with AMD GPU
PRO than MESA?

SM

Post by Michal Nowak

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM

If you have (very) old enough graphics card, you may use the Xorg
driver (it's either called 'ati', or 'radeon') and you should have all
the functionality. For anything newer the functionality moved from the
Xorg driver to kernel. So for OpenIndiana to have AMD GFX support, we
would have to port the Linux code the way it was done with the Intel
driver. Otherwise you have to stick with 'vesa' driver.
Michal
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[Jerry Kemp]

Thank you Ken,

I had no idea that this existed.

So would I be correct in stating that I could load up OI on a system, along with one of the supported AMD frame buffers and your
drivers, and, thru those drivers + OpenCL, could use the GPU's to process the computational type of data that people frequently do,
i.e. mine for bitcoin or some other silly task along those lines?

Thanks again Ken for the work you did. I looked at the illumous.org link below. Did it really only take you (2) coding hours?

Jerry

Post by ken mays via openindiana-discuss
Unless somebody sneakily started a porting effort."
See: https://www.illumos.org/issues/8069
I ported the AMDGPU driver a few years ago. The main AMDGPU-Pro components are closed source.
So, no support otherwise...
~K

[s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com]

If this is the case, we may need to look into getting things like
Ardour, Blender and Cinelerra ported over as well.

Then I can **FINALLY** get rid of Windows and make OI my primary
audio/video production machine.

I am not smart enough to port those programs over yet...but the idea of
discarding Windows is...liberating...

SM

Post by ken mays via openindiana-discuss
Unless somebody sneakily started a porting effort."
See: https://www.illumos.org/issues/8069
I ported the AMDGPU driver a few years ago. The main AMDGPU-Pro
components are closed source.
So, no support otherwise...
~K
On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 11:42:07 AM PDT,
How does one fire up the VESA driver?
Would ATI/AMD contribute to provide some kind of drivers if asked?
There are two drivers for AMD (that I am aware of) MESA and AMD GPU PRO.
The latter is needed for video production on Linux. MESA is not enough,
and may be okay for gaming, but not video production. I have not managed
to get AMD GPU PRO to work even though there are instructions on the AMD
site. It is buggy and difficult. People on forums have tried to work
through solutions but the consensus is that AMD needs to get their act
together.
That said, perhaps there may be more luck (down the road) with AMD GPU
PRO than MESA?
SM

Post by Michal Nowak

Post by s***@srvr-tmpl.ikhider.com
Hello,
I know there are graphics drivers for Nvidea hardware, but my hardware
is AMD.
What is the status for AMD grahics drivers on OI? Is it one of those
long-term, "one day...when GNU HURD dominates the marketplace on
consumer and enterprise systems".
SM

If you have (very) old enough graphics card, you may use the Xorg
driver (it's either called 'ati', or 'radeon') and you should have all
the functionality. For anything newer the functionality moved from the
Xorg driver to kernel. So for OpenIndiana to have AMD GFX support, we
would have to port the Linux code the way it was done with the Intel
driver. Otherwise you have to stick with 'vesa' driver.
Michal
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